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April 19, 2006

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stapler

The whole content of our relationship to Israel must be aired. The notion that Israel is a "democracy" and there for must be supported without facts. Israel is a democracy in which Israeli Arabs, 20 per cent of the population live on 3.5 per cent of the land with second class status in everything from housing to education to jobs. No genuine Arab has ever been part of a coalition government. Outside it's borders, Israel is an occupying power in clear violation of international law. Our support for this expensive "ally," a nuclear rogue state, deserves rexamination, by all for the ultimate safety of all, and especially Jews. Likewise, the arrogant imperialism of our own government.

Rick

stapler
Your assumptions about Israel are false.
Your "arrogant imperialism" comment hints at the source of your "misconceptions".

bbbustard

Dear Rick - I must give you credit for consistency - you seem to live in an entirely fact free world! What assumptions are false? Why? Give me some facts!

Rick

Begin with "Wanderings; A History of the Jews" and work forward from there. Compile some "real facts", not just fashionable opinions. There are hundreds or thousands of texts devoted to middle eastern history that will predate modern political influence. Of course they will reflect the flavors of the authors, but you have to sort through that with any text.

Look at the "real" history of mid 18th century Zionism. Look at the roots of Baathism and modern Pan Arabism beginning with Nasser.

Contemporary American culture has accepted history according to the likes of Gammel Nasser, Yasser Arrafat, Haffas Asaad and others. This has been the fashion for the last 30 or so years.

There are 1.3 million Arab citizens of modern Israel. They hold public office. They own businesses. They serve in the IDF. They are indistinguishable from Jewish citizens of Israel. They are the wealthiest Arabs on the planet, excepting those who receive revenue from oil. They are free. They want nothing to do with "Arafat's Palistinians" because they regard them as interlopers.

Get out of Manhattan. Go to these places. Meet these people. You are caught up in a "world of ignorance". Take Maureen Dowd with you. Her tank is on empty.

Rick

Correction

I meant to say mid 19th century Zionism.

Sorry to mislead you

Elmo

"distinguished American scholars," yep .... together with that Brigham Young physics bozo. "it was up to the “London Review of Books” to be sure that the article saw the light of day." Yep right again, we do live in a gulag (you are ever the sharp one).

"died under an Israeli bulldozer while protesting the treatment of Palestinians" Saint Pancake, your Queen, was an idiot. And a maroon.
She killed herself, I think it's called something like playing on the freeway. Plus I keep forgetting every Pale is a saint, and every Yid a sinner. Shutting down the tunnels saved many a life (oops sorry, many a k*ke).

The truth sets many free. Others?

P.S. Shhhhh .... don't tell anyone, but we recently convened the secret Jooish secret society [we communicate by brainwaves (also how we control other people's minds)]. And although we haven't yet picked the exact date to bomb Iran. I just thought I'd share. And save the world a whole lot of your infantile bellyaching and whining.

Signed, part of the cabal

bwaha haha ha

bbbustard

Thanks for your comment. You're kind enough to prove my point about the possibilities of an honest analysis - you'll ensure it doesn't happen. Seen any good plays about Ms Corrie in the States lately?
I am particularly impressed by your characterization of unarmed persons believing that the "authorities" will not wantonly kill them is akin to suicide. You seem to be arguing that to expect others to act humanely is to deserve death.
Please let me know which other countries benefit from lobbying our Congress to the extent that Israel does.

bbbustard

Rick - Thanks for the reading list; although I am not sure that I'll get through it anytime soon. In fact, I've been lucky enough to do business and visit friends in Israel at least a dozen times. Your description of the life of Arabs there is thoroughly untrue. Is this one of your Indian Sex- Washing-Smell fantasies? To suggest that Nasser or Assad have much influence on our debate is ridiculous. I apologize for not engaging more substantively in discussions with you, but since you clearly have no interest in substance, I don't know why I would bother. Let me know about current liberal views supportive of Nasser and we'll talk -

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